We knew DJI had a hard time importing its drones into the United States to the point that many shelves have gone bare, but it’s not just drones anymore. Today marks the first time it’s formally skipping the US with a non-drone product, its 8K Osmo 360 camera — and it’s not clear if it will ever officially stock it here, DJI confirms to The Verge.

B&H and Adorama are already taking pre-orders for both the $549.99 Osmo 360 and its $699.99 “Adventure Combo,” as well as an exhaustive range of accessories:

If you’re interested, you might also try to call: last time, I found Adorama taking phone orders for models that were already in stock but not yet listed as such on the website.

DJI never explained to us how the Mavic 4 Pro had a limited release at retailers, or whether it would honor its warranty on those sales, so we’re not expecting answers here either. But we did ask the company why it decided not to officially launch the Osmo 360 here, and a spokesperson would not say.

“There are multiple reasons behind why the Osmo 360 will not be available through DJI officially in the U.S. We do not have a timeline on when or if this will be available, but we will keep you posted if there are any updates,” Regina Lin tells The Verge.

As for the Mavic 4 Pro drone, Adorama and B&H both list it as “temporarily on backorder” or “temporarily out of stock,” though Adorama does list that it’s expecting a shipment in September.