Meta is clearly all in on AI, and for good reason. With models like Llama, products like the Ray-Ban Meta Smart Glasses, and a monetization plan like Facebook ads, it’s one of the companies best positioned to make AI really work. But it wasn’t that long ago that Meta was making a different, just as huge bet on the metaverse. It’s right there in the company name! So what does Meta really want to be when it grows up?

After that, we pivot to another company in the midst of even bigger change. The Verge’s Chris Welch takes us through the last year at Sonos, in which the company launched a pretty good pair of headphones — and a new app so disastrously bad it overshadowed everything else Sonos shipped. Now there’s a new management team, another new product line coming, and lots of questions left as to whether Sonos can win back the fans it built over years and lost in a matter of weeks.

Finally, on the Vergecast Hotline (call 866-VERGE11 or email [email protected]!), we answer a question about business cards. Because it may be 2025, but business cards refuse to die. And so we need something to do with them.

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